This week’s guest, Ashley Bettas-Alcala, and Doug have grown to know each other via the education and union leadership world. What Doug was unaware of until early July this summer, was Ashley’s devout following of all things Washington State University. So buckle up before listening to this episode because you’re in for a healthy dose of Wazzu talk, including a reference or two to the moustachioed patron saint of the Palouse, Gardner Minshew.

You’re able to listen to Ashley’s Conversation here.