As a good friend of Doug’s son, Jake, Jack Hellmann’s spent many an hour in the Hill basement watching sports or playing NBA2K so it only seemed natural to have him on to talk about his love of the Michigan State Spartans. A highlight of this episode was how Jack’s mother, Jean, helped develop his love of MSU athletics … much to the chagrin of his University of Michigan-loving father, Mike.

You’re able to listen to Jack’s Conversation here.